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Argon (24.02.2009, 21:16)
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You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!

People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
are MURDERERs!
sebree (24.02.2009, 21:24)
On Feb 24, 1:16 pm, "Argon" <Ar...@Argon.Argon> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!


You need to objectively prove that your deity exists. And given the
number of times your mythology claims that your diety has killed or
ordered the death of people, it would seem that your deity ha no
trouble with killing people.

What's more, your religious beliefs are not applicable to anyone else,
and you do not have the right to impose your beliefs onto others and
force them to suffer for them.

Additionally, killing people is not murder. And abortion does not
kill any people to start with.

> People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
> are MURDERERs!


However, your claims do not coincide with the facts. Murder is
defined as the illegal killing of a human being with malice and
forethought. Abortion does not fit any part of the definition of
murder. It is a legal medical procedure which is only performed on
request of the patient or in cases of necessity to save the life of
the patient. There is no malice involved, and no human being dies.

Mark Sebree
Adam A. Wanderer (25.02.2009, 00:58)
"Argon" <Argon> wrote in message news:ua41
> x-no-archive: yes
> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!
> People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
> are MURDERERs!

Sir, you are a deliberate, conscious liar. It's just tissue, like your
appendix. If you want to stop abortions, stop the need for them, promote
contraception, birth control and strict sex education. Or, is contraception
and birth control murder too in your mind? Is poverty and starvation just
the normal state of affairs in your mind?
Frequent abortion makes the world a more normal, cleaner, decent place for
all of us to be in.
Children destroy the lives and happiness of their parents, abortion makes
everyone's life better.

Abortion, good. Children, bad. Pope, sick, degenerate, evil.
The Chief Instigator (25.02.2009, 02:38)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:16:50 +0100, Argon <Argon> wrote:
> x-no-archive: yes
> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!
> People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
> are MURDERERs!


*slap* to the idiot formerly known as "Voyager".
Boo Radley (25.02.2009, 02:51)
"Argon" <Argon> wrote in message news:ua41
> x-no-archive: yes
> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!
> People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
> are MURDERERs!


Good, now do you support proper sexual education and birth control being
provided in the schools since you ignorant fuckwad christians are too scared
to talk with your kids about sex other than to tell them that it's a sin and
a magic invisible man is watching them do it.
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) Be Proudly EGALITARIAN. The *Righ (25.02.2009, 06:27)
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On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:16:50 +0100,
"Argon" <Argon> wrote:
>x-no-archive: no


> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!
> People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
> are MURDERERs!


You're either a troll, or a complete idiot.

GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION

God is omniscient and omnipotent. That means that He has
always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present
and future. And that He may freely INTERACT, uniquely, with
any person, group, or all humanity, however and whenever He
chooses.

Trillions (indeed, even octillions) of years ago, God KNEW
just *which* human entities (from sperm and ova on, inclu-
sive) would be born, and which ones would NOT, for what-
ever reason. In the case of Jeremiah, He interacted BEFORE
Jeremiah reached the womb -- while Jeremiah was STILL at
the sperm-and-ovum stage! (Jer. 1:5). In THAT case, at
least, the soul had been instilled at the sperm-and-egg
stage -- the stage at which God communicated with Jeremiah.

So it's VERY possible that God instills ALL souls at that
stage... since God ALREADY knows which of them will later
become people, and which ones will not. And if He chooses
to instill souls in ALL of those, then heaven must be a VERY
populated place. And any potential people that happened to
have been aborted then got a FREE pass to heaven. And
missed the RISK that is faced by all of us here on earth.

And then, there also is the very REAL possibility that God
chooses to instill souls ONLY in the entities that He KNOWS,
beforehand, *will* be BORN. Then there are NO free passes
to heaven. But that's no loss to the QUINTILLION human
entities, daily, that never knew the difference.

Any way you look at it, it's a "win-win" situation for God.
Which makes it no great surprise that He never said so much
as ONE SINGLE WORD against abortion. Since abortion is a
highly-valuable REMEDY that enables millions of women to put
their lives BACK on track, and gives them another chance to
pursue their full ranges of future opportunities, the availability
of it is FAR more in line with God's COMPASSION (and the
compassion that Jesus commanded us to show to others),
than it would be for women to be FORCED to carry-to-term
against their will, and see many of their opportunities and
their well-being destroyed. (Particularly since God ALSO
was/is well-aware that MOST women who DO obtain abortions
go on later to HAVE children, by choice, when the timing is
better, and the circumstances and prospects for long-term
stable family environments are far more favorable.)

For God, the status quo is "win-win-win" -- all the way!

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Ray Fischer (25.02.2009, 06:35)
(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) Be Proudly EGALITARIAN. The *Right* is Usually WRONG! <xanadu222_> wrote:
>x-no-archive: no
>On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:16:50 +0100,
>"Argon" <Argon> wrote:
> You're either a troll, or a complete idiot.
> GOD'S "WIN-WIN-WIN" SITUATION
> God is omniscient and omnipotent.


According to the opinion of a less-than omniscient wanker.

> That means that He has
>always KNOWN everything *about* everything, past present
>and future.


Thank you for sharing your opinion.
Attila (26.02.2009, 15:16)
On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 20:16:50 +0100, "Argon" <Argon> in
alt.abortion with message-id <go1go7$ua4$1> wrote:

>x-no-archive: yes
>You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!
>People who abort should be sentecned to death, because they
>are MURDERERs!


Not if you are speaking English and talking about anywhere abortion is
legal. Murder requires an illegal component. Without this illegal
component an act can no more be murder than a hamburger can be a
hamburger without meat or a cow be a cow without four legs and bovine
DNA.

It is impossible for a legal act to be illegal - it simply cannot
happen, To talk as if it can is to dishonestly foster a lie and
deception, as well as clearly indicating the audience is too dumb to
know what is being said.
Joe Cooper (02.12.2013, 18:13)
"Argon" <Argon> wrote in news:go1go7$ua4$1:

> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!


Not just murder, but murder for personal convenience.
Attila (02.12.2013, 22:37)
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:13:10 +0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
<nieqezbmvegk> in alt.abortion with message-id
<XnsA28A5381D17D9proggiessuck> wrote:

>"Argon" <Argon> wrote in news:go1go7$ua4$1:
>> You're killing GOD's children by aborting them and that's MURDER!

>Not just murder, but murder for personal convenience.


Abortion is a legal process and therefore cannot be murder.

There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion - she wants
it.

There is only one reason for a woman not to get an abortion - she
doesn't want it.

She doesn't need to justify it to anyone, and any or no reason is
acceptable.
SIlas (02.12.2013, 23:09)
On 12/2/2013 3:37 PM, Attila < wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2013 16:13:10 +0000 (UTC), Joe Cooper
> <nieqezbmvegk> in alt.abortion with message-id
> <XnsA28A5381D17D9proggiessuck> wrote:
> Abortion is a legal process and therefore cannot be murder.
> There is only one reason for a woman to get an abortion - she wants
> it.
> There is only one reason for a woman not to get an abortion - she
> doesn't want it.
> She doesn't need to justify it to anyone, and any or no reason is
> acceptable.

I dont like abortion because it be the main purpose of abortion be
to bet rid of black babys which reduces the number of black folks.
That be the main purpose of abortion. I be a democrat and i voted 2
times for obama but democrats they be bad wrong about this one thing.

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Attila (03.12.2013, 09:54)
On Mon, 02 Dec 2013 16:09:35 -0500, SIlas <Silas> in
alt.abortion with message-id <l7isu5$27ca$1>
wrote:

>On 12/2/2013 3:37 PM, Attila < wrote:
>I dont like abortion because it be the main purpose of abortion be
>to bet rid of black babys which reduces the number of black folks.


No one asked you or anyone else to like abortion. It is something
that only involves a pregnant woman and is her issue alone.

>That be the main purpose of abortion.


Actually the only purpose is to terminate a pregnancy. Any effect on
the fetus or anything else is a trivial side effect.

> I be a democrat and i voted 2
>times for obama but democrats they be bad wrong about this one thing.


I am a Republican who abhors two of the major party positions, the
Freedom of Choice and religion in public especially when supported by
tax money.
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